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Watched this tonight, found it really interesting and was glued to my seat, worth a watch by Led Zep, U2 and Jack White fans, or indeed anyone with an interest in guitars.

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<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The film documents the varied playing and recording styles of guitarists Jimmy Page, The Edge, and Jack White.

Page's history with guitar traces back to his childhood when he played in a skiffle band. After desiring to do more than play pop music, Page "retires" from guitar playing to attend art school. He later revives his music career as a session guitarist, only to be discouraged by the realization that he is playing others' music and stifling his own creativity. At that point, Page begins to write and perform in the bands The Yardbirds and Led Zeppelin. Page discusses the skiffle and blues music that influenced him at the time. For many of Page's scenes, he is seen visiting Headley Grange, where several songs from Led Zeppelin IV were recorded, and in one scene, explains how the distinctive drum sound from "When the Levee Breaks" was achieved from the acoustics of the house.

The Edge's history with guitar traces back to building a guitar with his brother Dik and learning to play. In the film, he visits Mount Temple Comprehensive School and recalls forming U2 in his childhood. He also demonstrates his playing technique, in how he eliminates certain strings from chords, as well as his use of echo and delay effects to "fill in notes that aren't there". He also discusses his purchase of his signature guitar, the Gibson Explorer, in New York City and the punk music that influenced him. In other scenes, he plays early demo tapes of "Where the Streets Have No Name", discusses his inspiration for "Sunday Bloody Sunday", and spends time experimenting with guitar effects for the riffs to "Get on Your Boots".

Jack White traces his musical background to his childhood in a rundown neighborhood of Detroit. Living with two drum sets and a guitar occupying his room and sleeping on a piece of foam due to taking out his bed for more room for his music, White struggled to find a musical identity, as it was "uncool" to play an instrument and his nine siblings all shared a musical propensity. His strong interest in blues and roots music opposed the hip hop and house music popular in the predominantly Latino south Detroit neighbourhood at the time. White eventually finds a niche in a garage rock band called The Upholsterers while working as an upholsterer, which paves the way for his future bands The White Stripes and The Raconteurs. White's philosophy is to limit and challenge himself in various ways to force creative approaches to recording and playing.

The touchstone of the film is a meeting of the three guitarists dubbed "The Summit". In these scenes, the three guitarists not only converse about their influences and techniques, but they also play each other's songs together, showing each other how to play "I Will Follow", "Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground", and "In My Time of Dying". The film concludes with the men playing an impromptu cover version of The Band's "The Weight" on acoustic guitars.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Most definitely..

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Thought it was an advert for our house on Christmas day. We've got the daughter a bass guitar for Christmas. That will sit next to her two sets of drum kits and my guitar. Should be fun, and before you ask no I don't play but I'm trying to learn so I can jam along with my daughter. :hb:
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Hammer wrote: Thought it was an advert for our house on Christmas day. We've got the daughter a bass guitar for Christmas. That will sit next to her two sets of drum kits and my guitar. Should be fun, and before you ask no I don't play but I'm trying to learn so I can jam along with my daughter. :hb:
You could have your own Christmas day gig mate, sounds like fun :D
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Booger, I missed this :(

I have got the Guitar bug as well. Just went out and blew a load of cash on a Guitar and Amp. Now I have what the Guitar nuts call GAS....no, not wind or indeed an original GSV member, but Gear Acquisition Syndrome....I want load of guitars!.

<a href="http://www.luckymusic.co.th/uploads/web ... m%2024.jpg" target="_blank">My Guitar</a>
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Hey Clingy I've been looking at the same Paul Reed Smith 25th Anniversary in Blue.

I'm thinking of getting a <a href="http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_ ... 0615484731" target="_blank">Schecter Solo6 Custom</a> and a Line6 Spyder IV 30w amp. I need a lot more practise first to be able to justify the outlay.

What made you go for the PRS and how long have you been playing.



Id really love <a href="http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_ ... 0916140721" target="_blank">this</a> if I could play like Synyster Gates from Avenged Sevenfold. If I spent that kind of money on a guitar the wife would divorce me. Evey cloud etc :D
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Hi all

geetars are great

im currently pacing my house waiting for my shipment to arrive from the uk

6 guitars
2 amps
1 drumkit
plus lots of electronic recording bumf

hey hammer i gotta schecter and i must say they are a well built guitar nice and heavy
i would really reccomend a ibanez or a washburn for playabilty and affordability

prs look good and play well but the price doesnt justify them imo

but its each to there own i have only discoverd this buy collecting them and having the advantage of trying other makes for longer than playing in a shop

line 6 make good amps too i have one and its the dogs ******** especially the spider range

feel free to ask for any advice im happy to give any(i hope that doesnt sound condecending)

cheers nick
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Odlie I'm glad you've turned up here. I've been meaning to ask you on Facebook for a few guitar sites for beginners. I purchased the Jamorama package (they are based in New Zealand) last year. I started it but put the guitar down and forgot about it.
I've restarted that package and I'm also looking at Justinguitar.com Justin has loads of stuff for beginners. I've also joined as a free member of Lick Library with a view of upgrading to the subscription package once I can play a bit.
I've also ordered a couple of LL (Lick Library) DVD's off an Ebay shop as they are cheaper than getting them direct form LL themselves. I ordered a beginners Guitar & Bass DVD's so I'll see how the daughter and I get on with them when they arrive.

The Lick Library DVD's which teach you songs presume you can play a bit, so you need to know a few chords etc to get the best out of them.

I'm still looking about for a guitar and I'm leaning towards The solo 6. I've always liked the Les Paul shape over the Fender Strat. Just my preference. I'd like a proper Les Paul but they are the wrong side of 1k. I know I can buy an Epiphone Les Paul but I don't want the Epiphone name on my guitar as I know it's a cheaper Gibson. Probably just snobary on my part hence the Schecter Solo 6. Plus the solo 6 has coil tap on it as well so you can get that single coil sound if you want. I also want a guitar with a glued neck as opposed to a bolt on one as I think they look better and play easier at the top end.
What's your thoughts on glued & bolt on necks Oldie. I'm wanting a guitar to cover a good range of rock songs. I like most classic rock groups from ACDC to ZZtop and a few metal ones as well, but I think this is where the amp comes into play to get the sound you want.

Which model Schecter do you own Oldie? Thanks for posting here as any information is appreciated. I've got Gus (M60Ho) giving me advice on the drumming side for my daughter.

Right off to practice Back In Black again, rhythm only as I've not got started on lead guitar yet.

Cheers all Hammer.
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about 20 years back I bought a beginners guitar kit, amp etc.

Still have it and play occasionally, really should invest in a more upmarket job, but can't afford anything really decent. However the frets on this one are well worn...
Perhaps when the kids stop trying to join in with their fisherprice kit, I'll splash out a little more..
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The Balalaika.... erm... how's that on the Machismo string scene? It is a macho bloke instrument, after all... :unsure:
Just be a nutter... life becomes much more exciting, and people won't expect anything more of you...
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Hi hammer

great to hear from u m8 and also its cool that you are encouraging yourself and your daughter to play an instrument(i cant wait till my boy gets old enuff to play tho i have bought him a little drumkit for xmas and also a cheap strat copy for him to twang on)

lets start with how your gonna learn and TAB is the easiest and most rewarding way to play especially when it comes to learning the basics and also famous tunes too.
i can remember when tab was relativly new and my guitar teacher would use a tape machine to slow down tracks and he would work out the tab for me
of course with the internet you have a mass of available tips and lessons and pretty much you can learn any song you like
I prefer not to learn songs as such i get more pleasure out of just jamming along to a drum track and seeing what happens but i think when you first start out there is nothing better than impressing your crowd :2t: with a bit of ACDC or Metallica
if your serious about it then i would reccomend learning basic chords and scales first(get your fingers used to the strings and also use a metronome <a href="http://www.metronomeonline.com/" target="_blank">here :)</a>set it at a slow pace and just run through scales.The secret is that repeat over and over again until your sick of it and its amazing how quickly you can pick it up (your speed and ease of plucking)

also as you are like me and you love the metal just start learning power chords(they are the backbone of all that is metal :hb: and they sound cool too)

you have no worries on that guitar mate you might want to change the strings when you get it to a lighter set so its easier on your delicate fingers.you will find tho that it will be a heavy guitar like my schecter(mines an omen 6)<a href="http://www.chrisguitars.com/schecter-omen6-bk.jpg" target="_blank">here</a>so experiment with having the guitar betwwen your legs as opposed to on one leg
I do recommend buying a epiphone les paul tho mate even tho they are a cheaper model they are spot on for sound(not a great deal of difference to a real one) i can reccomend this one <a href="http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_ ... 0310481928" target="_blank">here</a>
you are best going into your local music store and no matter how embarrased you might feel pick a few up and sit with them play them(smash em up if u like)
as regards to glue on v bolt on i have 2 of my guitars like this.This baby<a href="http://www.soundtech.co.uk/images/sound ... b_0906.jpg" target="_blank">here</a>
and this one <a href="http://www.wikizic.org/1-034-034977-Iba ... 32-DRF.jpg" target="_blank">here</a>

you get a deeper sound also a lot more sustain but you will not have any problems with a bolt on(if you like it with a glue on neck or a bolt on just get it dont worry about that until you are ready to buy your next guitar)

i also have one of these <a href="http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_imag ... 01ab82.jpg" target="_blank">here</a> now that is a heavy bitch :hb:

I am shitting myself waiting for my shipment because i unbolted 4 of my guitars and i couldnt do anything with my glue on necks so i hope they had a good trip

you really cannot go wrong with the line 6 spider amp if you can spend a bit more i reccomend this one<a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Line-6-Spider-J ... B00164RIWM" target="_blank">here</a>it has lots of preset sounds and also you can jam along to real backing tracks its pretty cool
also if you can get a wall hanger for your guitar its keeps them straight and also you are alot les likely to knock it over when pissed :2t:

so there u go i hope that helps you and please ask me if u need any more help

on a end note i just got handed a classical guitar from a m8 at work so at least i can strum until my stuff arrives

take care

nick :) :gsv:
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HI Oldie thanks for the reply again.

I think a 75w amp in the house is going to be a bit overkill and probably wont be able to go over 1 on the volume, hence the 30w.

I looked at the normal bullseye Zak Wylde Epiphone but didn't like the cream finish on it. I notice that guitar and one of the guitars you have both have EMG active pickups on them. What is the difference between passive and active sound wise. I noticed the Schecter Solo 6 I like is available with EMG actives as well, at a greater cost. I wanting an all round guitar and still don't know if I should stick with a hardtail or not. More importantly whatever I get must be able to stay in tune and worth paying a bit extra for.
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Hammer wrote: HI Oldie thanks for the reply again.

I think a 75w amp in the house is going to be a bit overkill and probably wont be able to go over 1 on the volume, hence the 30w.

I looked at the normal bullseye Zak Wylde Epiphone but didn't like the cream finish on it. I notice that guitar and one of the guitars you have both have EMG active pickups on them. What is the difference between passive and active sound wise. I noticed the Schecter Solo 6 I like is available with EMG actives as well, at a greater cost. I wanting an all round guitar and still don't know if I should stick with a hardtail or not. More importantly whatever I get must be able to stay in tune and worth paying a bit extra for.
Hi mate

i have a 200 watt amp and i find that because its got a high wattage it gives me the sounds i like without it being too loud.
and think of the times when u have the house to urself crank it up and let go :2t:

I love my emg pick ups because they are active mine are 81s and 85s the classic metal set up(jame hetfield,zakk wylde ect) you get more sustain and also less interferance due to the fact that there is no strong magnet trying to suck ur strings up .plus the sound difference is amazing emg do passive too so check b4 you buy

i have had a look at the schecter and you cant go wrong with it mate its a good solid well made guitar and i could spend all day telling you what i think you should get but tbh its all down to what you want and the schecter is going to blow you away m8
go with your heart and tingly bits trust me it wont be the last time you fall in love with one


cheers oldie :gsv:
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Noooo not Avenged Sevenfold, I'm sick of hearing them :P

Eldest plays them 24/7
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Legthigh wrote: Noooo not Avenged Sevenfold, I'm sick of hearing them :P

Eldest plays them 24/7
Love A7X they are amazing. Took my daughter to see them the other month and they are amazing live, got to see Stone Sour as well on the same venue.
Olderama wrote: Hi mate

i have a 200 watt amp and i find that because its got a high wattage it gives me the sounds i like without it being too loud.
and think of the times when u have the house to urself crank it up and let go :2t:

I love my emg pick ups because they are active mine are 81s and 85s the classic metal set up(jame hetfield,zakk wylde ect) you get more sustain and also less interferance due to the fact that there is no strong magnet trying to suck ur strings up .plus the sound difference is amazing emg do passive too so check b4 you buy

i have had a look at the schecter and you cant go wrong with it mate its a good solid well made guitar and i could spend all day telling you what i think you should get but tbh its all down to what you want and the schecter is going to blow you away m8
go with your heart and tingly bits trust me it wont be the last time you fall in love with one
cheers oldie :gsv:
Doing a bit more research for a jack of all trades and found <a href="http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_ ... 1113354031" target="_blank">this Shecter.</a> EMG's 81/85's and Floyd Rose vibrato. Will probably be changing my mind until I actually go to purchase one, sometime next year.

Amps, Line 6 or Roland Cube still researching them.

Right Oldie mate which scale shall I try to learn first? Thanks for all the info keep it coming appreciate it mate. :hb:
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